luismasg, May 18, 2017 at 2:37 PM : let's stick to the point and keep the hate speech for another thread. we all know the " Apple is evil/stupid and wants to screw over its clients" rant. Apple makes a lot of claims as to why the audio jack had to die. most of them sound suspiciously like bullshit. I mean, the whole "aaaand it features an audio jack!" - thing is so last year, let's get over it. I'd like to hear from the OnePlus engineers or staffers people that actually know the engineering costs of putting it, hopefully from the Pete himself. OnePlus: Is there an ounce of merit to this trend? is there anything awesome you could do with the real estate taken up by the audio jack? we won't take it as a threat that the OP5 won't have it. but I would like a honest opinion from someone I ( and the community ) respect. A hypothetical really. so you remove the jack, whats the upside? in what circumstance does this make sense? you ditch the entire DAC? save power? lighter phone? better reception strength due to less cross-signal? anything AT ALL good?? For my part, all the headphones I've ever used always end up sheared after a few months anyways so I mainly use my car's bluetooth.